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Homework for E. Fuller Torrey and Xavier Amador
There is no proof of anosognosia, just subjective perceptions within the context of the intrinsic power imbalances of the psych industry in relation to its “target market”. Merely saying that data suggest something – doesn’t mean that data actually suggest it. If data suggest something one must always consider whether or not those data are flawed or whether or not the methodology which produced those data were flawed.

Any data that impute a medical condition to a failure to be aware of and/or accept the reality of something that cannot be described with enough clarity, specificity, and evidence to prove its existence – whether a chemical imbalance of the brain, or a unicorn – are flawed.

Psychiatry has not proven anything medically about the neologism “anosognosia.”
The only thing the psychiatric industry has proven when they label someone as anosognosic is that they do not agree with said person’s sense of reality, which differs from the consensus reality. A person believing an “unpopular” reality, could correctly state that the psych-industry has no proof of the validity of consensus reality and that a disagreement about whether or not there are “fountains of youth” for example, when neither the absence nor presence of “fountains of youth” can be proven – does not prove lack of insight on the part of the person with whom psych-providers disagree.

Let us also entertain the hypothetical situation in which a person interprets their perception of “the existence of fountains of youth” as less valid than the equally unproven reality of “an absence of fountains of youth” – but doesn’t attribute their “unpopular” perception to sickness of the brain. In this case, psychiatry’s disagreement with the individual’s interpretation of the cause of the experience they are experiencing – given that the chemical imbalance theory is completely unsupported by evidence and even acknowledged as metaphorical by many psychiatrists, psych pharmacologists, and neurologists – does not prove that the person in question is sick and lacks the insight to know that they are sick.
https://www.madinamerica.com/2013/05/ho ... er-amador/
dr. Davidson pisze:I can reassure Drs. E. Fuller Torrey and Xavier Amador that I know of their theory linking anosognosia to schizophrenia [May 1, letter, "Neurological Basis For Denying Illness"; and May 3, letter, "Condition Obscures Mental Illness"]. Anosognosia is a neurological condition in patients with nondominant parietal lobe lesions, who deny their partial paralysis.

I can understand wanting to apply this notion to mentally ill persons who refuse treatment, but there are at least five reasons not to:
1) No such lesions have been found in schizophrenia, despite over 200 years of research looking for them. What Drs. Amador and Torrey have is a theory, not a fact. Other than justifying outpatient commitment, this theory has led to no breakthroughs in treatment.

Not only are such theories dangerous, but they
2) do not explain how so many people with schizophrenia gain insight and recover over time;
3) do not take into account the power of stigma, which persons with mental illnesses identify as the major barrier to accessing care;
4) do not take into account the limited effectiveness and responsiveness of much mental health care; and
5) do not support outpatient commitment because schizophrenia is the least likely condition among the mental illnesses to be implicated in the extremely rare acts of violence that occur.
Anosognosia: how conjecture becomes medical “fact” - https://www.madinamerica.com/2012/08/an ... ical-fact/
dr. Sandra Steingard pisze:Neurologists use the term anosognosia to describe a peculiar syndrome in which a person has a profound lack of awareness of an obvious deficit. For instance, a person who has a stroke on the right side of his brain and is paralyzed of the left side of his body has no awareness of the problem.
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The type of “psychological denial” that the authors want to distinguish between this so-called anosognosia would presumably be something along the lines of someone who has lost a loved one but does not report being sad. The only way one could conclude that the findings in the psychosis studies were different and somehow distinct would be to scan the brains of people who were found to have “psychological denial” and compare those to brain scans from individuals who had “good insight” and as well as those who are identified as having lack of insight of psychosis.

As with the notion of “chemical imbalance”, the term anosognosia has crept into the psychiatric lexicon. Its use confers a certain sophistication of understanding and knowledge that is not supported by the data.
Intoxication Anosognosia: The Spellbinding Effect of Psychiatric Drugs - http://breggin.com/spellbinding_psychiatric_drugs.pdf
dr. Peter R. Breggin pisze:Why do so many individuals persist in taking psychoactive substances, including psychiatric drugs, after adverse mental and behavioral effects have become severe and even disabling? The author has previously proposed the brain-disabling principle of psychiatric treatment that all somatic psychiatric treatments impair the function of the brain and mind. Intoxication anosognosia (medication spellbinding) is an expression of this drug-induced mental disability. Intoxication anosognosia causes the victim to underestimate the degree of drug-induced mental impairment, to deny the harmful role that the drug plays in the person’s altered state, and in many cases compel the individual to mistakenly believe that he or she is functioning better. In the extreme, the individual displays out-of-character compulsively destructive behaviors, including violence toward self and others.
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While it is important in helping people to emphasize the central role of personal responsibility and self-determination in their lives, in evaluating their prior conduct we need to take into account their level of brain function. From lobotomy to drug intoxication, loss of brain function makes it hard and at times impossible for human beings to maintain a high level of ethical functioning. Psychoactive medication induces brain dysfunction that tends to spellbind the victim so that he or she has little awareness of being impaired and no awareness that the drug is causing problems. Often there is an element of euphoric overestimation of one’s mental condition and conduct.

Most of the individual observations that I have made are drawn from my clinical experience and general medical knowledge, and some of my observations about anosognosia have been well researched. Hopefully my observations will ring true for other clinicians and researchers concerned with drug effects. Certainly many of my individual points are well known and broadly accepted. Prior to this time, however, the observations have not been brought together into a unitary concept of medication spellbinding or intoxication anosognosia.

In summary, medication spellbinding or intoxication anosognosia leads the victim to underestimate the degree of his (or her) drug-induced mental impairment. It also causes him to fail to recognize that the drug plays a role in his changed mental state or behavior. He may think that the drug is having no impact or that it is having some beneficial effect. In extreme cases, typified by drug-induced euphoria or mania, the individual believes that he is functioning better than ever, when the drug in fact is severely mentally impairing him, and driving him toward compulsively destructive actions. Medication spellbinding or intoxication anosognosia probably affects most people who take psychoactive drugs, including most patients who are prescribed psychiatric drugs. It helps to explain why so many people take nonpsychiatric and psychiatric drugs despite the fact that they are doing more harm than good.
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Fajnie jak byś z grubsza podsumowała każdy z zamieszczonych cytatów, po polsku. Zapewne zawierają ciekawą informację ale wymagają już dobrego obycia z językiem angielskim. Niestety mało ludzi zna na tyle angielski by to przeczytać.

Jeśli Twoim zdaniem powyższe cytaty są warte poznania, dopisz krótkie streszczenie w dwóch zdaniach do każdego z nich.
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Tytuł tematu jest po angielsku i filmik również, więc zamieściłam artykuły na ten temat w tym samym języku. :)

Tak w skrócie: Jakiś czas temu E. Fuller Torrey (to ten, który stara się zalekować ludzi bez diagnoz profilaktycznie oraz wprowadzić "leki" psychiatryczne do więzień) wraz z psychologiem X. Amador (ten cwaniak z filmiku) wpadli na pomysł przekonania wszystkich, iż "schizofrenicy" odmawiający przyjmowania "leków" cierpią na neurologiczną chorobę - jest to oczywista bzdura. Anosognosia to syndrom spotykany u pacjentów neurologicznych, którzy nie są świadomi oczywistego deficytu tzn. zaprzeczają paraliżowi jednej str. ich ciała przez uszkodzenie przeciwnej półkuli mózgu...

Dr. Davidson napisał, że "anosognosia", którą Amandor i Torrey próbują przypisać do schizofrenii [jest to tylko ich teoria, a nie fakt naukowy - przez ponad 200 lat badań nie odnaleziono niczego takiego u "schizofreników"] aby wprowadzić przymus dla wszystkich, którzy nie zgadzają się z diagnozą. Takie teorie nie tylko są niebezpieczne, ale także nie wyjaśniają dlaczego większość osób ze schizofrenią zyskuje wgląd i powraca do zdrowia. Nie biorą pod uwagę siły stygmatyzacji, która jest dla ludzi z zaburzeniami psych. główną przyczyną nie szukania pomocy u psychiatrów. Nie zważają na ograniczoną efektywność i odpowiedzialność w psychiatrii. Nie usprawiedliwiają przymusowego leczenia [schizofreników], ponieważ wśród wszystkich chorób psych. to właśnie w schizofrenii niezwykle rzadko dochodzi do aktów agresji.

Dr. Peter R. Breggin wcześniej wprowadził termin "intoxication anosognosia", ale określając nim stan, w którym pacjent psychiatryczny neguje szkodliwy wpływ np. neuroleptyków i zaprzecza zauważalnym u niego przez innych deficytom jakie powodują, a nawet wierzy, że funkcjonuje znacznie lepiej dzięki "lekom" kiedy jest zupełnie odwrotnie i upośledzają jego ogólny stan zdrowia, mają duży wpływ na jego stan psych. i zachowania. Dotyczy to nie tylko leków psychotropowych używanych w psychiatrii, ale też narkotyków i innych szkodliwych substancji o psychoaktywnym działaniu... - wyjaśnia to fakt dlaczego ludzie stale stosują leki przynoszące więcej szkód niż pożytku.
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Skojarzyło mi się z tym jak w czasach Związku Radzieckiego istniał termin "schizofrenia bezobjawowa", jak ją zdiagnozowano to siłą wrzucano do zakładu psych. Tą metodą establiszment załatwiał ludzi opornych władzy, nieakceptujących komunizmu, itp.
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JudasHonor pisze:"schizofrenia bezobjawowa"
Historia kołem się toczy... viewtopic.php?f=86&t=15003 :wink:
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Ciekawy film krótkometrażowy o chorobie
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Wróć do „wiedza o schizofrenii”